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I have a '54 1 ton. I've been trying to remove the brake drum on the passenger side and noticed the shoes look to be preventing me from doing that. What's the best way to retract the shoes?

I know I have a '41 Ford tractor and there's a bolt that easily retracts them. I just can't find anything in the manual that is similar. (unless I just overlooked it)

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Brake adjusters on my 51 1 ton are at either end of the wheel cylinder and operated by a nut on the back side of the backing plate. Not sure if you have the same Huck brakes I have or later Bendix? If Bendix the adjuster is a star wheel at the bottom inside, operated with a brake spoon pry-bar thing.

While trying to remove the drum be kind to it, they are becoming increasingly hard to find.



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Don't try to retract the shoes. Your 54 should have Bendix brakes, which are retained by nail-shaped pins through the backing plate, one on each side. Grind the heads off the pins with a small angle grinder, and unbolt the wheel cylinder, then remove drum, shoes, wheel cylinder and all as a unit. All you destroy is the shoe retainer pins, and they're readily available at any parts store.

There is a slot at the bottom of the backing plate that gives you access to the star wheel brake adjuster, but the shoes are usually rusted tight to the drum, so backing off the adjuster might not help the situation. There can also be a lip worn into the drum that lets the brake shoes hang up and prevent the drum from sliding off the shoes.
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Thanks guys, I was able to pry off the drum from the shoes without harm to either.


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It's good you solved your problem. When I once had stuck break shoes on a '75 Dodge truck, I heated the drum with a propane torch with good success. It had been parked with the parking break engaged for quite a while after driving around on streets with deicer. That's a no no.



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Originally Posted by Hotrod Lincoln
Don't try to retract the shoes. Your 54 should have Bendix brakes, which are retained by nail-shaped pins through the backing plate, one on each side. Grind the heads off the pins with a small angle grinder, and unbolt the wheel cylinder, then remove drum, shoes, wheel cylinder and all as a unit. All you destroy is the shoe retainer pins, and they're readily available at any parts store.

There is a slot at the bottom of the backing plate that gives you access to the star wheel brake adjuster, but the shoes are usually rusted tight to the drum, so backing off the adjuster might not help the situation. There can also be a lip worn into the drum that lets the brake shoes hang up and prevent the drum from sliding off the shoes.
Jerry
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This is how I ended up getting my drums off Howard Knapp...it is/was a 1 ton truck...angle grinders are a wonderful invention for sure...

shown here...

Mine had the tension springs on the top I think broken...I had no other choice...

not the most civilized way to do it but I couldn't think of any other way to get them off...

MikeC


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