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#1142027 12/31/2015 1:52 AM
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I am new here and hope I am posting in the right forum. I recently purchased a 52 235 Pick Up that I am trying to make a daily driver. I am currently working out an engine miss. After that I plan to refurbish the entire brake system, maybe put in a dropped axle while checking the entire front end. The trans is a four speed with the first gear being a granny gear. What trans is a good swap in order to use all four gears and am I on the right track?


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The 52 rear axle will be the torque tube type, (enclosed driveline) so the only options you have without doing a rear end swap will be the current 4 speed or a 3 speed, which would require a steering column change and several other modifications.

If you're willing to go to the expense and effort of changing to an open driveline rear axle, a Muncie or Saginaw car 4 speed could be used. Either one will still have a 1:1 ratio 4th gear, so there will be no gain in road speed. A swap to a T-5 overdrive trans (5 speed) will give you more top end, and 5, not 4 gears to work with. All the above options will require changing the torque tube rear end that's currently in there.
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Another way to get lower RPMs at higher speeds is a change to 3.55 ring and pinion gears in the rear end.

Classic Parts sells the R&P set and and a nice installation parts sets.

Taller tires also help with lower RPMs at higher speeds.

You still might not use 1st gear very often, except with a heavy load; but, your higher speed RPMs will be much lower.

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Patrick's advertises a torque tube adapter kit for the Saginaw 4 speed. Anyone here used that setup?


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I helped a guy install one of Patrick's adapters many years ago. It was a nice setup except for the shifter being too close to a bench seat. I would make sure that Patrick has the kit in stock before buying. He is notorious for taking money and then having a batch of parts built and sometimes drags these kind of things out for a year. I had always thought about one of those for myself, but I will probably never get around too it.

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I've decided to take the plunge on one. He told me it could be 60-90 days before they're ready, I asked to be put on the list. He wouldn't take payment yet but will contact me when it's available. Plan to give him a holler if I haven't heard anything in a couple months. Really looking forward to the closer ratios versus the stock 3 speed. Got some pretty big tires and 3.55 rear end on the truck now which ain't helping matters on steep grades or in town traffic either.

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Matthew 6:33

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If one needs help with steep grades, it might be worth looking for a 261 engine, bolts right in.

Don't know about town traffic, 235's or 261's are pretty flexible RPM wise, are you using 'granny' in town?

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