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| | | | Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 | I thought I had an Apache 3800 but now I'm not so sure. There are no emblems and I've yet to find numbers as there are no longer tags...unless I'm not looking in all the right places?
My truck is a 1958, dually, 8-lug, and Custom Cab (best I can tell), with primary and relief springs in the rear with more leaves than an oak tree. What other info can I provide to help make the distinction?
1958 Chevy Apache 3800
| | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | did you look at the driver's side door pillar for a VIN plate? also check for GVW plate there too. also, how long is the bed. is there a truck bed or a flatbed? how about tires, are they 7.00x20 or smaller? bigger? just some things for you to check, usually if you have most of these traits, it's more than likely a 1.5 ton or larger. Indy 
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9  | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy TonofFun, according to my truck sales data book for 1959 "Apaches are series 31 to 38. Medium duty Vikings consist of Series 40, 50 and 60. Heavy-duty Spartans include Series 70,80,90 and 100. Series 50, 70 and 90 are Low Cab Forward models, sometimes abbreviated as "LCF" models." Hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 | Hy TonofFun, according to my truck sales data book for 1959 "Apaches are series 31 to 38. Medium duty Vikings consist of Series 40, 50 and 60. Heavy-duty Spartans include Series 70,80,90 and 100. Series 50, 70 and 90 are Low Cab Forward models, sometimes abbreviated as "LCF" models." Hope that helps. That's what I'm finding as well, but I have no way of distinguishing between a 3800 Apache or a Viking 40. I looked again and there are no more numbers or data plates. But, the overall length is around 212" and the tires are 8R19.5. I also counted the leaves in the rear end and I have 8 primary and 8 relief, but I do know that a few have been added.
Last edited by TonofFun; 09/21/2015 8:33 PM.
1958 Chevy Apache 3800
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 | did you look at the driver's side door pillar for a VIN plate? also check for GVW plate there too. also, how long is the bed. is there a truck bed or a flatbed? how about tires, are they 7.00x20 or smaller? bigger? just some things for you to check, usually if you have most of these traits, it's more than likely a 1.5 ton or larger. Indy I've checked those spots and more, unfortunately...nothing there. I included the length overall and some other specs that you asked for in the post above but I failed to mention that there is currently no bed whatsoever. I am going to put a flatbed on it.
Last edited by TonofFun; 09/21/2015 8:31 PM.
1958 Chevy Apache 3800
| | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | The 8 lug wheels are the giveaway, it's a 3800 1 ton Apache. The Vikings either used a large 5 lug front/10 lug rear, or a larger 6 lug all around. They also have much wider front fenders than the 1/2 through 1 ton trucks. There should be a serial number plate spot welded to the drivers side door pillar, usually on a windshield frame part of the door opening. The number should also be stamped on the drivers side frame rail, near the steering box.
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 21 | Thank you very much everyone!
1958 Chevy Apache 3800
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 32 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 32 | The front end sheetmetal of the 3800 is the same as the other light duty Apaches. The Vikings have larger fenders that flare out ahead of the doors. | | |
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