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#1122883 09/06/2015 11:54 PM
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Vertex Magneto. It's a self contained ignition system, has no need for an external battery or generator/alternator. Jerry could explain it better than I can, but essentially, it has its own generator built into the housing, plus the high tension coil. You can have it out of the engine, sin the shaft by hand, and it'll make a spark with a pretty good wallop to it (don't ask how I know that ;)). Those were very popular on race cars, as it eliminates several components (starter, generator), reducing weight and power losses.


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Before the fancy electronic ignitions came about a magneto would supply much more zap than a convention point type ignition.

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Thanks. I had no idea. But there must have been a drawback to this system because it didn't take off?


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Deve #1122986 09/07/2015 6:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Deve
Thanks. I had no idea. But there must have been a drawback to this system because it didn't take off?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_magneto

They are simple, reliable, and still used on some engines that have no battery/alternator/generator.

They took off (take off) very well in the right application.

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Millions of farm tractors used them.


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In the past just about every thoroughbred racing engine ran with
a Scintilla Vertex magneto until recent times and you still see
many midgets still running with them especially in the
nostalgia get together's. We ran them in our Chevy II and
Sesco engines. Also used one in the Chevy V8 sprinter back
in the day.
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Most recip aircraft engines have 2.


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Deve #1122998 09/07/2015 8:02 PM
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That was my point guys. As a Pilot I saw magneto systems all the time in aircraft applications, on the farm all the time in tractor applications, and every week during the summer in lawn mower applications, yet this system or something like it never caught on in automobile applications. I was just curious as what your opinions were as to WHY.


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Back when there was still a lot of pump farms where my wife grew up in Medina County running on natural gas, they all had magnetos. They lasted a long time and were very efficient, but were very expensive to repair when they broke. Back in those days, almost any kid could throw in a set of points and condenser. Magnetos were very popular with the flathead guys, but that was a little before my time. Olds and Y-Blocks were boss in the mid to late 50's when I started smoking the tires.


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