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| | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | hey guys, i am possibly getting a 305e v6 out of a 64 gmc in a few weeks, but i was wondering what sheet metal must be removed to pull the engine, would it be just the hood or possibly the whole front clip? if i do need to take off more than just the hood, how will this stuff come loose? i've never had the privilage of working on a 60-66 body style truck before and i might also say that the truck is being parted out so the guy might not be real happy with me if i tore up his sheet metal, even though the truck is in rough shape,  thanks in advance, Indy 
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9  | | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 | Just remove the hood Materman... easy peazy  | | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | ok thanks, it seemed it would be pretty staight forward but I wanted to be ready for any surprises,  Indy
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | | | | Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 788 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 788 | I would remove the rad also
ron | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Take off hood, then take off front clip as one piece. And Radiator of course. Way easier to take motor out and if he is selling sheet metal , why not. Not that many bolts. I have a 60 4x4 with a 305. and an extra parts 305 also.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn
| | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | OK, good, so the fenders will come off in one piece, these trucks just look difficult to take apart then also, the rad has been sold, so no worrys there this engine will be a "back up" engine for my '69 but will go in the truck as soon as I get it, the '69 305e will be under construction in a few months but I need the truck for my springtime jobs coming up. as soon as the '69 v6 is ready, the 64 will get pulled and stored and eventually rebuilt, or so thats the plan Indy
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Clip access near door hinges and under fender extensions. Hood hinges stay on clip. Inner and outer fender stay together as do the rad cross members and grille. take off front bumper first. Two or three guys to lift. You can get motor out without doing this but it is much easier if you take off clip. Up to you. If the tranny cross member is riveted, you may run into a problem with motor/tranny being "trapped". In that case you have to unbolt tranny and leave behind. If cross member is bolted, take it off.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn
| | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | ahhhh ok! thanks for the heads up about the cross member! I was assuming that it is bolted on and I would have been really stumped as to how to remove everything. Also, the tranny is a SM-420 granny gear, if that makes a difference when pulling the engine/tranny combo.
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | A lot of them have a 420 4sp compound low. In my experience with a 63, we had to disconnect tranny and pull motor and then rotate/scuffle the tranny out the bottom of frame. The tranny would not fit/slide forward between the floor/toe board and the cross member.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn
| | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | so the tranny can stay put when I pull the engine? I don't mean to be dense, but the only other SM-420 that I've pulled was in my 55 1.5 ton, and it just hangs off of the bell housing with no supports under it making it a real bear to pull by itself, haha. also I am not buying the tranny, so leaving it in will be helpful for me and him if that is all possible, but if I need to pull it I will. Indy
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Yes it can but you will have to see if it really needs to by inspecting clearances and cross member attachment. I did a 63 GMC and had to disconnect tranny from bell housing. The shifter will come off and disconnect driveshaft. I'm sure other ideas will emerge.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn
| | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | alright, thanks Bartamos. It's always something with stovebolts, seems like every truck has it's unique curve ball to throw at us, I just hope this one goes pretty smooth which it seems like it will
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2012 Posts: 574 | thank you all for your helpful replies and advice, my engine pull went smoothly today, I now have a 305D engine to install in my truck. Indy
1949 Dodge Coronet 1955 2nd Chevy 4400 1.5 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1955 2nd Chevy 3100 1/2 ton 1957 Chevy 5400 LCF 2 ton 1966 Dodge D100 Sweptline 1968 Chevy P20 stepvan 1969 GMC LWB pickup 1972 GMC Sprint 1974 CP30 shorty bus There are three things that I've learned never discuss with people: religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin.----Linus Van Pelt Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9 | | |
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