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#1083215 02/02/2015 4:57 PM
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I have a 1952 3600 which I am using a 292 instead of the stock 216, I am using the truck to tow my vintage trailer. I was wondering how many of you have used a Muncie m20 . Was it a difficult setup ?

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What rear end are you using? A M-20 is a car transmission and first gear will probably to high.

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First gear in a Muncie M20 is going to be something like 2.50 to 1. So it depends on the rear end ratio as Don inquired. The 292 has the torque to pull just about any ratio within reason.

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Was planning a 3.73 but I can change the r&p to anything since the rear end has a 3.42 ? Now.

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Make sure you have a M20, M21 will have a 2:20 1st gear, M20 is 2:56

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Gears are interchangeable ( or so I am told) but I will make sure I have correct first. Thanks for the help!

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After some research it is a 1965 m20 . the interesting thing is the gearing was stamped into the case, looks like the same stamp as the date code.

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Why not use the SM420 that was stock to the truck? 4th gear is going to be the same ratio as the M20, plus you get a much better 1rst and 2nd gear ratios for getting the load moving.


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Because I didn't think the stock trans would hold up to a 292.

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Originally Posted by jeff3600
Because I didn't think the stock trans would hold up to a 292.
I'd guess that an M20 from a car would not hold up better that an SM420 truck transmission (used in 2-ton trucks with big sixes - 302s in GMCs).

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The SM420 was the only 4-speed truck transmission available in 1952.

It was standard on 1952 1-ton's and above.
And, it was optional on all smaller 1952 trucks.

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OK thanks didn't know that

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The M20 will fail long before the SM420.

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Well I can always sell the m20.....

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I've seen SM-420's in tractor pull rigs handle 600+ HP. The SM 465 will work even better and only requires a different bellhousing hole diameter.
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