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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | I've been chasing a pesky fuel smell for a while on my 50. It was just on occasion, not always. I thought it was the filler neck hoses, so I changed those out yesterday. I left the seat back out and went to fill er up today as I usually do every two weeks. Well it was not to hoses that we leaking. Its leaking at the tank where the filler pipes attach ...video.... I don't know if you can make it out but when I push down on the rag gas was coming out to bottom of the small pipe flange. I was surprised I found that. The tank is just a few years old, and a spectra tank. Looks like they missed some solder in that area. So here's my question Will any product seal that area? ie. jb weld/ epoxy? Anything? I would like to try to seal it first before buying a new tank. Even if I do get a new tank I need to drive the 16 gallons out so I will attempt something. Thanks | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | The tanks looks like new Gus. No rust or corrosion of any sort. You're gonna have to empty it and take it out if you were to replace it, so why don't you just re-solder it while you have it out??? Could have been bumped at some time or maybe when you were putting the hoses on or like you said, maybe they just missed a spot when they soldered it. Are you sure that's a Spectra tank? The solder joint doesn't look like a factory job, after all they are an OEM manufacturer and make tanks by the tens of thousands and I'm sure Spectra would pressure test them.
Great way of showing the problem by the way. dg
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Are you sure that's a Spectra tank? The solder joint doesn't Yes its Spectra Made in canada ..pic.. Purchased from rock auto .com. Id have to look into soldering it myself. I'd be on the fence about that. right now I'm thinking exterior seal or just getting another one. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Gus, even if you didn't feel confident in re-soldering it yourself, I'd bet a radiator shop wouldn't hit you more than and hours labor charge to flush it and re-solder it. Still gotta be cheaper than replacing it. And that tank has got to have another 50 years worth of use in it. If you insist on a new tank, I'll drive out an pick up the cadaver, and play some black jack while I'm out there...
Seriously though, I'd stay away from a patch like you're thinking about doing.
Denny G
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | Also, empty it clear out, then fill it with water to the top before applying anything with heat. An empty tank is more dangerous to weld or solder than a full one. Your nearest radiator shop can do it, so can a local welder who may opt to braze it. Either way, that problem will never come up again that way. I agree, especially knowing how thorough you like to do things.. go the extra mile. JB weld isnt to your own standards.  | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 | I've successfully used JB Weld to seal some leaking seams on a gas tank on a 48 TE20, the tank mounted over the engine, and it held leak free for 16 yrs and is still probably holding.
In this case, a joint thats prone to moving, I wouldn't recommend JB Weld.
Radiator/tank repair shops routinely cut open tanks to clean them out then resolder them back up, I'd run the tank down (or drain it down) pull it and let a radiator shop look at it, as stated your looking at an hr or so of labor, much cheaper than a new tank.
Good luck Dave | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,308 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,308 | Soldering on such a clean tank would be a breeze. It isn't difficult to do. Lots of flux, keep the heat moving around the outer portion of the leaky area, feed the solder into the gap. It looks like you already have the ability to test it once you get done. Carl
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | That could be soldered with a large iron Gus, no need for a flame. A hundred years ago when I was serving my sheet metal workers apprenticeship, we soldered a lot of gutter which isn't much different in mass than that tank.
dg
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | Good point Denny, guys that worked for my Dad years ago always soldered with the iron. They would put it in the gas fired furnace and get it good and hot. They could solder like crazy with it, lots of flux and the solder flowed real nice. I know that they didn't want to use a flame on the galvanized sheetmetal or that is what I seem to remember. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Thanks for all the suggestions
Ill call a couple of shops tomorrow
new replacement tank is $142.89 Shipping: $22.46
Ill have to drive the truck to work for at least one more week. I've probably had this problem for months.
Funny this is I would smell a little fuel when making turns sometimes. I thought it was coming from the engine bay. All along it was that tank and only doing it when full or near full. I never put the two together.
If I can save $165.00 Ill sure try.
I remember watching the episode on "How its made" when they were at the spectra plant. It showed them testing each tank under water. This one I have is missing solder on both flanges.
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Man, I'd like to see that episode of "How it's Made". I could sit and watch them for days on end. I haven't seen one for quite some time though. At least since we lost ComCast and got stuck with Direct TV.
Think about using an iron Gus, might just save you a hundred bucks. Bound to have a buddy that has one stashed away in some dark corner. DG
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Man, I'd like to see that episode of "How it's Made". ...click... In that video you see them flowing sodier around the whole neck. I have gaps ...pic... I have a coworker who might have an iron. Ill ask thanks | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Tks, I looked but couldn't find it so I got stuck for a couple of hours feeding my brain with all kinds of other crap. Told you I could watch it for days.
Didn't see anything that I hadn't seen before in the metal forming. Although I've done some shallow deep drawing when I was called upon to make target flasks at the lab, the very deep draws still are a bit if a mystery to me. Never was able to keep the sides from some slight wrinkling where they gathered.
dg
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Denny, I took your suggestion and called a couple of shops yesterday....drove down to one , he looked at it and quoted 75.00 to fix it. Re-solder and clean the tank.
Ill just drive the gas out of this full tank , remove it and take it to the shop.
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Removed the tank this morning Going to drop it off at the shop later The filler inlets are not close to being square ...pic... ...pic... May have contributed to the failed solder, but thats just a guess. Here is the pic of my original tank ...pic.. | | |
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