The Stovebolt Site Forums The Shop Area Engine Shop Identifying an early Chev 6....

I am trying to help a fellow collector from the Czeck Republic identify what I think is a 194 or 207 engine. Language is an issue so I am looking for visual identification.

Engine is dressed with a 216 valve cover. It has an updraft intake manifold. The dizzy location has no pad for a serial number. The crankcase ventilator hole is on the carburator side. On the carb side you can actually see the curve of each cylinder in the casting as oppose to the smooth side of a 235. Bellhousing is slightly different with engine mounts on the front face of the housing.

Cast in the block... a few inches and below the dizzy is

GM
G 9 5 ( July 9th 1935 ??)
887591 - 8
correction 837591.....

Is there a web site where one can see pictures of the various Chev 6 of that period.

I am still trying to download the pictures he sent me but they seem to be protected by the posting site.

Thanks for you help guys.

Bob C.

Try this photo link:

http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/10624151-700-0.jpg

or this one:

http://www.hemmings.com/story_image/260631-1000-0.jpg

http://img.mecum.com/auctions/AN1112/AN1112-138914/images/AN1112-138914_6.jpg

Thank you sir.

In the last picture it shows the updraft carb set up..... what year was the vehicle....?

From the other engine number sites it seems to confirm a July 9th 1935 206.2 (207) block.

The poor fella was hoping to use it in a Canadian military vehicle circa 1940-45 as a replacement for a 216.

Obviously Chev six are not plentiful in that part of the world.

Thanks for your help.

Bob C

The pre-216 engines are about 2 inches longer, and there are several other differences. They also have poured Babbit main bearings, different size and length connecting rods, and a bunch of other differences. I believe the 216 was first used in either 1936 or 37, so anything older will not be a good candidate for that swap.

This one is supposed to be a 1930 engine- - - -not sure about the size. By 1933 they were using downdraft carbs.

http://www.oldride.com/parts/subsetmr/81015095039700.jpg

Jerry

1932 was the first year for downdraft carb.
Can you get a casting number from the block?
216 was first used in 1937.
Up to 1936 the lower part of the thermostat housing is part of the head.

The bellhousing bolt pattern on the back of the engine changed in 1937 with the introduction of the 216, so a different bellhousing and possibly transmission(depending on the year of the car/truck)would be needed if replacing a 194/207

Block casting indicates 1935 and yes the thermo housing is part of the head......

Definitely a poor candidate for a transplant into a 216 military truck.

Complete 216...fan to 3 speed tranny and Pontiac running 261 with 3 speed at $450 each asking on Kijiji Canada.

People must be cleaning up garages in anticipation of Winter.

Cheers

Bob C

FYI, a 216,235,261 are 1 3/16" shorter than the 194/206.
It is the GMC engine that is longer.