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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,094 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,094 | Question for those of you with electrical knowledge. This is regarding a later model vehicle, (1982 el camino). There are two fuseable links down by the starter, the wires are cracked and broken. I want to replace them with new but not sure how to determine what size the links are. I see 16 on each link, but the wires coming and going to the links are 10 gauge. The replacements that I found at flaps are smaller.Any suggestions before I head to the pull a part with some wire cutters?
Tommy 59 apache 1/2t 261 short stepside | | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | The rule of thumb is 2 sizes smaller then the wire it is going to serve. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 | The fuse links on virtually all GM wiring harnesses are very similar. Your pull-a-part idea is a good one. Cut the donor conductors several inches downstream from the fuse link and do a "Western Union" splice into your wiring harness using the copper wire, not the fuse wire. Then solder the connection and use shrink tubing to insulate it. DO NOT try to do a crimp connector splice- - - -these are heavy current conductors to such things as the ignition switch, headlights, etc. Getting a good, low-resistance crimp connection is very unlikely. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,094 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,094 | Ok thanks George will have to remember 2 sizes smaller than what it will serve.
Jerry, back from pull a part, I like going there for stuff like wire and small connectors they usually give it for free. Yes I will splice like you suggested. I don't like those crip on connectors and it is a heavy current wire as it is feeding everything inside the car.
Thanks for the info.
Tommy 59 apache 1/2t 261 short stepside | | | | | Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 339 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 339 | I thought a fusible link wire should be 4 sizes smaller not two, which is correct? 53 3100 | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 | The wire gauge size of the link is not nearly as important as the material- - - -it's not regular copper wire. The whole idea of a fuse link is to protect the wire harness downstream, so only a short section burns out. Fusible link wire melts at a lot lower temperature than copper, so the wire gauge size does not have much relationship to its melting point. I've tried to solder fuse wire occasionally, and it's almost impossible to do- - - -the wire has only a slightly higher melting point than lead/tin solder. Here's a chart listing fuse link sizes and corresponding current capacities:
Circuit Hypalon Link Type MAXI Fuse Rating Circuit Wire Alternator Feed (R6) 12 gauge (black) 160 amp (2x80 in parallel) 8 gauge (BK) Radiator Fan (C26) 20 gauge (orange) 40 amp 14 gauge (GY) Ignition Feed (J10) 18 gauge (grey) 50 amp 12 gauge (PK/BK*) Ignition Feed (J1) 20 gauge (orange) 40 amp 12 gauge (RD) ECU/ASD Feed (J1) 22 gauge (white) 30 amp 12 gauge (PK) Direct Battery Feed (L1) 18 gauge (grey) 50 amp 12 gauge (RD/WT*) Heated Rear Window (C13) 18 gauge (grey) 40 amp 12 gauge (BK/RD*) Hazard Flasher (A3) 20 gauge (orange) 20 amp 14 gauge (PK)
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | My question is, why did they go to fusible links in the first place?
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,742 | why did they go to fusible links in the first place? It was the "baby chick" syndrome- - - - - CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP! Fusible links cost a lot less than installing a heavy-duty fuse holder. For some reason, very complex, expensive power distribution centers with "Maxi Fuses" in critical supply circuits are in use on modern cars, instead of fuse links. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | I'll bet those fusible links going bad made for a lot of new automobile sales. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 566 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 566 | I thought a fusible link wire should be 4 sizes smaller not two, which is correct? 53 3100 MAD Electrical
"As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my sweet ride." -Amen 56 Chevy 3100 | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,270 | Good read, Tiny. Now I am starting to like fusible links a little better. I just remember back in the day, the mystery surrounding the fusible link. It was often blamed (incorrectly) for all kinds of maladies. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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