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| | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 | I took off the left(drivers side) interior kick panel and can see straight down to the ground. I don't know what the missing body part is called since there is nothing to go by for reference. It does not appear to be part of the inner fender or floor pan.
Does anyone know what it is called pr where to order it? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 | That would help, wouldnt it. It is a 1951 3100 1/2 ton. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | You say that you took off the "kick panel". Was it welded on?
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 | The Kick Panel was not welded on, it was held on with screws. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 | Ahhh someone "repaired" it..... John | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 39 | Yes, it definitely looks like it has been patched before. I have attached a picture, taken from inside the cab, sitting in the drivers seat, looking down at the floor and to the left. You can see daylight and my front left tire tread. That is the hole I am trying to figure out what to do with. I have the panel drawings from Dads50. Does the Cowl Side Inner Panel attach (spotweld) directly to the Cowl Side Rail? https://www.flickr.com/photos/100928948@N02/ | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 | The inner cowl panel was attached at the door frame (spot welds were under the channel for the wind lacing), the inner to outer panel which looks like it is still there. Was spot welded to the side of toe panel and along the outer lip of the floor pan where it turned down.
Looks like someone patched the floor pan also?
John | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | Yikes! You are missing the entire inner cowl. To fix it correctly, you are in for some serious work. You will need the full inner cowl panel.
The problem is, the ones sold by the vendors are not formed anywhere near correct at the bottom.
The good news is some of them sell a half panel(the bottom half) that IS formed correctly.
The bad news is that you need to buy both panels and graft them together. It is the easiest way to make the repair in my opinion. Trust me.
The full panels have a horrid gray primer, and the half panels are black EDP primer.
Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Also make sure the beads line up with the door ...pic... | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | DADS50's second pic shows the correct shape of the bottom of the patch panel.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Just be very careful when replacing the left cowl side rail to
the side sill portion or you will have serious problems when
you try to bolt up the parking brake bracket or install the
pedal and shaft assembly.
Take lots of measurements and pictures before cutting away any
of the original metal.
dg
Denny G
Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Yes The second pic above of the patch panels had to be reworked to get the shape correct at the bottom. Had to pound out the bottom and rebend it and make the flange. I used the parking brake bracket as a target for locating the sill on that side ...pic... This is a common repair and most of us have found the same frustration with the patch panels | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,272 | Yes
The second pic above of the patch panels had to be reworked to get the shape correct at the bottom. Had to pound out the bottom and rebend it and make the flange. Dad, I didn't realize that you reworked the panel in pic #2. Nice work. There is a panel available from the vendors (lower half only) that is formed very close to the correct shape. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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