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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 | Guys, I'm considering adding disc brakes to the front of my 3100 but have a few questions for those of you who have done the conversion. I have a separate front axle with the brakes already on it. What else can I expect to have to do other than swapping the axles? How much stopping power can I gain if I don't add the booster? I realize these are very general questions but the manual doesn't cover an axle swap/conversion. Any tips/advice will be greatly appreciated.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,706 back yard wrench turner | | back yard wrench turner Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,706 | You will need a master cylinder, a distribution valve, a 2 lb residual valve, a 10 lb residual valve.
The stopping power won't be much better, just more consistent. Wayne1938 1-Ton Farm TruckStovebolt Gallery Forums1989 Silverado 1996 Mustang GT convertible When I die, I hope she doesn't sell everything for what I told her I paid for it! | | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 | Thanks for the info Wayne. That gives me a starting point.
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | Maybe am I confused on the question. But, an axle swap is not needed. Just bolt on the disk brake conversion kit/bracket to your existing axle/knuckle. You must install a proportioning valve and most valves have the residual valve built in. Additional valves are not needed. You must convert to dual circuit MC made for front disk/rear drum setup. I added a booster and love it. But, trans cross member modification is required. Booster/MC/prop valve
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 328 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 328 | I did this on my 51 Panel. No axle swap was necessary. The decisions needing to be made include where do you want the master cylinder and booster? In my case I wanted it on the firewall. This necessitated installation of a hanging pedal brace to eliminate the floor pedals; due to Buick 455 engine and T400 trans. Firewall mount made exhaust a breeze & service access to the master a no brainer.
The kit from CPP included the front axle spindle races to convert from ball to roller bearing. The rotors, calipers, bearings, etc. are basically from late 70's Camaros; replacements are easy. The only real custom piece is the caliper mounting brackets. The whole thing was pretty easy and combined with the power steering conversion, & tie rod upgrade, it made that old truck drive like a new Caddy!
If you are not swapping engines.. then the under floor replacement for the stock one is just fine; but, as previously stated…...the axle does not need to be replaced.
hope this helps. mike
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 | Thanks for the info guys. I know the axle doesn't have to be changed. I just came in contact with someone who sold their truck before doing the conversion they planned to do. He had a complete axle with a new brake kit already on it along with other parts (pitman arms, steering gear box,other suspension parts). I bought the whole lot from him and figured it would be easier to drop the old axle and bolt up the new one than removing the brakes from the new axle and adding them to the existing axle. Sounds like I might as well add the booster to get the full benefit of the conversion. Is there any benefit to mounting the booster and MC on the firewall other than easy access to the MC?
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | No benefit that I can think of. But, it will be a LOT more of a PITA. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 | That's what I figured David, with changing pedals and rerouting lines. Thanks for the info.
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 328 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 328 | Exhaust clearance was the deciding factor for me. With the pedals, shaft, and MC gone, I was able to use off the shelf down pipes for the 455 using stock exhaust manifolds.
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 98 | I don't think exhaust will come into play for me mounting on the frame. I have Fenton headers leading to duals on a 235 with Fenton dual carb intake. Thanks for the thought though Squire. That's something I hadn't considered.
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