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My '34 has this hydrovac unit , which has a garden hose connecting it to this unit , different view. The mounting looks pretty factory. But I have not read of a hydrovac in the factory manual so I am thinking it was added? The brakes are stock mechanical, can this system work? My other 1.5 ton does not have a hydrovac, so I have read about them, but not worked with them. Any and all help is appreciated!


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bracket off a bracket, double nutted, farmer fix, no telling how it evolved, I could see someone thinking they could improve braking/ reduce foot power required of mechanical brakes, by rigging something up, but with mechanical brakes there isn't any 'hydraulics' to vac wink hydraulics didn't happen until about 36 - if you think you can make it work [safely] it could be an interesting historical feature, but I wouldn't call it a 'hydrovac', because it's nothing like one

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That's a vacuum-assist unit used to help out the mechanical brakes, similar to the ones on my grandfather's 34 Chevy flatbed trucks when they were hauling bottled beer from Milwaukee to Nashville Tennessee in the late 1930's. Later, they added an insulated trailer behind one of their rigs to haul ice-chilled keg beer. No brakes at all on the trailer!
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Thanks HotRod, I am assuming they were an afterrmarket item? Or were they offered by the factory or dealer? Anybody have a line on someone who rebuilds them?


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I never saw the family rigs, just heard about them. It's probably an aftermarket accessory, and rebuilding will probably involve fabricating home-brewed seals. I'd suggest making an aluminum piston that's a close fit to the cylinder bore and grooving it for 2 or 3 big O rings. Valving the vacuum to the cylinder can probably be done with air brake components of some sort. Be sure to include a vacuum reservoir tank somewhere in the system to get at least one power-assisted brake application after the engine stalls.
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Well Jerry was correct my unit is a Bragg Kliesrath vacuum brake system, that was used on Stutz, Duesenberg, Packard, Lincoln and others. I have read that it produces 200-280lbs of vacuum pressure. So far the only place I have found that has parts available is Classic & Exotic service Inc. Apperantly Bragg Kliesrath published a a book "Safety demands the power to stop" 1920. If anyone has this, or any other information please let me know.


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