hay Russell, thanks a bundle!! it'll get done, just gonna take a while as it's not a money maker

I've got a front bumper that's real mangled, but I can get a good chunk w/ the right line and curve to replace that pintle box - also got a neighbor who's an artist w/ steel, and did a great job of pick n file dent removal on other bumpers for me - gonna try to keep a photo record of the job
Bill