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#1026118 05/04/2014 2:57 PM
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I have identified the engine in my 51 3100 as a 1959 made 235 with hydraulic lifters. I have a granny 4 speed and I just determined that the rear end is a '66 12 bolt with 4.11 gears.
I understand this means that the rear wheels move slowly in relation to the crankshaft,but what does this mean to me?Why would someone choose such a combination? What are the advantages of this in a 1/2 ton pickup? What are the drawbacks? I once owned a 68 1 ton international that was geared like this. I could drive the truck up a steep hill in first gear and someone could walk behind it to spread sand on the road from the bed.I let out the clutch with a full load of wood and it crawled uphill to the road without touching the gas pedal.
But what good is this for what is basically a passenger truck?The truck came to me with no bed and a handmade flatbed that was rotted. I rebuilt the flat bed and built a wooden shell around it with tool compartments for use in carpentry. I really don't need speed and will probably never drive it anywhere but on back country roads so I don't need speed.
I'd appreciate people's opinions.---Jack

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They may have been using the ratio that was originally used in the truck. When it had the enclosed driveshaft originally it was a 4:10 ratio.
Good for hauling loads and such, but the top speed is probably 50-55mph range.
As you stated you don't need a high speed runner. I'd say as long as you are happy, that is all that matters.

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That gear ratio is quite standard for 1/2 ton trucks. And for lots of 3/4 ton as well. Original ratio was the same.

http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1948_51truck/51ctsm0447.htm

Torque is what moves things. And with 4.11 to 1 things get moved. Later trucks have adjusted to higher road speeds thanks to the Interstate system. But before that...moving stuff was the goal.


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When your truck was new the speed limit for trucks was 45 mph. (In Wisconsin, not sure about your state). If your satisfied leave things alone and enjoy the ride.

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"If your satisfied leave things alone and enjoy the ride."--I will.
Thanks all.It makes sense and it's comforting to know they tried to keep it close to original. I don't need no interstates so I'm happy.---Jack

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Granny gear works good in parades too. Ya just chug along without having to constantly use the clutch and brake.

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I have the same trans as yours. a 235 and a 390 posi. I don't go over 60-65 and when I start out I start in 2nd gear with no issue.
It works great.


1961 Long Stepside Apache 10, original 235, 4 speed and 3:90 posi totally stock (owned 12 years)
1966 Chevelle (owned 53 years)

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