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#1024723 04/28/2014 3:02 AM
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I am upgrading my 49 6400 2 ton dump.. I Am not doing a restoration as it is mostly original with only 11800 miles (former fire truck).

I would like to improve the engine compartment ie. paint etc. Do i need to pull the engine to do this or can it be done with the engine in?

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https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=819665&page=1

Lonnie posted some pics in the thread above

he painted his in the compartment

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Remember, instead of masking hoses, lines, etc. use aluminum foil. Easy to apply and remove.

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Thanks for linking to my old post, Gus. I haven't been on the forum much lately. Been working on my "new" '55 MG TF-1500. Still haven't sold the truck. No room in my garage for two collector cars plus my woodwork shop.

>> pierrem

ENGINE PAINTING ...

I showed the truck last weekend in an AACA club event. (The show was not as good as johnsmith's show!) The engine still looks good, two years later. Getting some staining from oil leaks, but not much.

I used a number of degreasers and brushes to clean my engine. A dish brush and a toilet bowl brush work well. The engine must have all oil off, or the paint won't stick. Clean the frame parts and paint them, too.

A pressure washer is probably the best tool to remove grease and grime from the engine and frame. But the Harbor Freight siphon engine cleaner works surprisingly well. Wand pressure can be regulated at the compressor. I used Gunk S-C mixed with kerosene. I used the HF cleaner on my MG engine a few weeks ago. Cleaned right down to the bare metal ... I even got some flash rust is a few places, so I know that it was clean. Use the HF cleaner to rinse also. Water + a little Dawn detergent, followed by pure water.

Protect your distributor and starter with tape and plastic. Remove the generator. Remove or protect the voltage regulator and carb. Optionally, remove the distributor.

You will mask and repaint the engine and frame a number of times to cover up misses and overspray. And DavidF is right ... aluminum foil is easier to use and less messy than masking tape in some areas.
> Engine masked for painting

I used an old valve cover to protect the valve train while painting. I painted my "real" valve cover separately.

Remove and prep your valve cover and push rod covers. Prime and wet sand to perfection before shooting the top coat. My valve cover was pretty rough. No filler used. I blasted and sanded the bare metal (outside only). Then primed + sandable primer of a different color. Wet sanded until the first color of primer was visable. Will need to do multiple times.

If you want to do more than just shoot the engine, then here are some additional steps that you may want to do that don't take a lot more time ...

Remove the radiator. Easy to remove. Strip and paint it. I used lacquer thinner to remove paint from the brass top and bottom. Possibly some stripper on the steel side supports. This also provides space to remove the fan blade and to paint the front of the engine. I used rattle-can Rustoleum Black Semi-Gloss Automotive paint on the radiator and fan. I did not paint the fins of the radiator. Pulley etc are engine color. See list of paints in the link that DADS50 posted.
> Radiator stripped and ready for paint

I made a spray booth from two 6-ft ladders and some plastic sheeting. Wear an approved respirator.
> Radiator spray booth frame
> Radiator spray booth open
> Radiator spray booth closed
> Radiator paint drying

While you have the radiator out, check the water pump for signs of wear. Better to replace it now than later.

Strip and paint the air cleaner and voltage regulator cover. Lightly sand and paint the generator and starter. Tape the openings to prevent sand and paint from getting inside. Leave the ends of the generator bare aluminum.

Add to the new-truck look with the proper decals/tags for the valve cover, air cleaner, generator, and starter, new period appropriate radiator cap, hoses, clamps, and belt. Clean up your wiring, too.

Painting the engine and inner fenders was one of the best things that I did to improve the looks of my truck. Well worth the time.

- Lonnie


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Awesome pictures.

This is timely stuff for me. I'm not going to be painting anytime soon, but need to do some serious de-gunking of engine, transmission, etc.

I was thinking first pass would be a putty knife or similar (unless someone has a better suggestion).

Then some kind of solvent, scrub, solvent, scrub process.

Has anyone tried to use steam to de-grease/ de-gunk? I was wondering if that might work once you get the rough cleaning done.


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Lonnie,
outstanding tips. Exactly what I am looking for. Very nice. good Luck on the MG.

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I like krylon semi gloss, drys faster than rustoleum. Its likey as good or better than what the factory used.

Last edited by Truckrolet; 04/30/2014 9:07 AM.

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Still looking for an LCF or conventional big bolt in decent shape.


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Speaking of fast drying paint, Rustoleum's high temp paints dry super fast and now come in Satin (same as semi-gloss). But, beware, it takes more passes (than conventional Rustoleum) to get the paint on thick enough.

I use it between lapped sheet metal prior to plug (spot) welding to hopefully slow down the future rust.


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