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#1020006 04/07/2014 5:50 AM
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Does anyone have a picture of the 1947 2nd series dash, specifically the steering column mast mount? Can anyone confirm that the 1947 2nd and 1948 did not have a drip rail on the top of the cowl? I thought that was a 1947 feature only and they corrected it in 1948. I just saw some pictures of a 1948 cab with the smooth cowl and i may have been mistaken on when this changed. Thanks………….g

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Here are a few pictures of my 1947.5 trucks interior. 1947 is the only year with floor shift only and no indent/provision in dash for column shifter. Some of the other interior features unique to the first AD truck, is the parking brake located in the center of the floor beside the shifter (not visible here). The windlace channel is attached with screws, and the doors open by pushing the handle forward rather than pulling back. The gauge needles are red, and the 80 mph speedometer has the high beam indicator at the bottom.
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Interior:
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums...n%20Trucks/1947interior2_zps90e51754.jpg
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b542/RdLessTaken/RdLessTaken%20Trucks/IMG_20355_zps958caaec.jpg

Interior Close Up:
Notice the ignition switch with "handle" on early trucks
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums...rucks/1947interiorcrop-2_zpsc3f11dff.jpg

Cowl With No Rain Channel:
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b542/RdLessTaken/RdLessTaken%20Trucks/1947Cowl_zps878cad57.jpg

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Thanks Don, I can see from your pictures the non-indent on the dash. Do you have a better picture without the steering column? Do you have a picture of the original gauges mounting tabs? I know they are different than the 1948. Is the cowl indent smaller or just where it mounts to the dash, for some reason I thought you could tell the 1947 from viewing the mast hole from inside the engine compartment.

Do you know if the 1948 shared the same smooth (no groove rain drip) cowl as the 1947? Do you know when they changed it?

I had forgotten that they had push open instead of pull open door openers. Since it never had a mounted shifter column, the holes for the mounting will not be present either. The mounting bracket will be a one year only too. or will it?

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I am hesitant to reply because every time I do I get critiques from the 30+ post wonders that inhabit the site lately, but here goes. Here is a picture of the mast hole you describe. There is a similar shaped plate that covers it on the inside. I have seen this on a couple 47's and one 48 I have owned. You can also see the smooth cowl pretty well.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/8593171495/in/set-72157631870734114
The column bracket appeared to be the same as the later models, I haven't sold it so I will look around to double check, same on the gauges as I know I still have them. Part number on the column brackets is 3686722*16 and 17.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/8625359671/in/set-72157631870734114
I have also seen 48's with and without the rain channel which was probably a running change by assembly plant.

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You should be able to determine if the cab is '47 or '48 from the engine compartment as well as inside. The mast hole had to be vertically elongated to accommodate the column shifter in '48.
Also if the doorpost ID plate exists, '47 serial numbers begin with EP, ER and ES. 1948 serial numbers begin with FP, FR and FS.
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This '47 mast hole is like Brad Allens.
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b542/RdLessTaken/RdLessTaken%20Trucks/IMG_79043_zpse102079b.jpg

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Thanks Brad and Don, that helps. I know we get a lot of incomplete answers on this board and sometimes confusing responses. My intention is to give accurate answers and when I find myself giving wrong information I try and rectify it. I thought I had seen 48 cabs with the groove, in fact I sold one. But body tags get changed and I may have identified it incorrectly.


Brad, It's obvious that you have had the parts to confirm what you say as have I. I have a garage full of Suburban/Panel/Canopy Express parts that I have purchased/removed or confiscated before they went to the crusher. I have been a member on here since 1999 and have spent more time searching then I wish to say.

For some, the SB is a joke because of misinformation. I read that on a similar site constantly and we have members on both sites that know what I am talking about. I try and do my part to be informative and accurate to dispel those comments, I will never be successful, but that's my goal. I enjoy the knowledge of people like you that do have minutia details about these trucks, because of these details people can avoid costly mistakes or wasted time figuring out what they did wrong.

I am compiling pictures to identify lot's of differences throughout out the 47/55 1/2 ton models to assist me and others in this hobby. We have several bolters' that have done the same and I have mentioned to Peggy that we should have a Stovebolt Cave for archiving these differences and making a pictorial retrieval system. We could also have some of the best posts discussions there for others to see instead of having to search thousands of documents not find this information. But as we all know, it takes time and someone who can do it, it's not fair to push it on Peggy who is already on overload.



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You are welcome to any of my archive pictures if you need them. I also have quite a bit of literature for AD's I have never posted so let me know if I can help.

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Thank you! thumbs_up That's a move into the direction I have been going for a long time, nice to see another bolter' join in! You have my email address, let's stay in touch…………….g

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Some additional pictures for the discussion:
Back side of a 1947 gauge set up against a later post 48 version.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/13748476365/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/13748869604/
Notice the difference in the tabs, and the wiring harness attachment, the mounting to the dash is significantly different.
Picture of 1947 speedo/gauge backs.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/13748868174/
Also pictured is the block off plate that covers the mast hole where the column enters.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/13748509423/

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Thanks Brad, that makes sense to me now. They would need the oblong hole to install the mast, but would use the block off plate to keep the critters out and secure the mast too. The pictures of the gauges are exactly what I need to see in print. I have only seen one set before at a swap meet. ………….g


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