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#101204 06/19/2007 8:25 PM
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I have seen many threads mentioning the swap to a more potent charging system because air conditioning was being installed. What is it about air conditioning that requires more oink out of the charging system?

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#101205 06/19/2007 8:39 PM
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Mainly just the fans. Those fan motors can pull quite a bit of current in order to provide you with that nice blast of refrigerated air.


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#101206 06/19/2007 9:40 PM
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On older cars, it had more to due with the clutch on the compressor, as they don't have electric fans. But on newer cers with electric fans, that does have a significant role in it as well, as the fans generally run all the time when the A/C is turned on.


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#101207 06/19/2007 9:54 PM
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Yep, good point about the electric cooling fans. I was more meaning the blower motor fans. Even on newer vehicles I've seen the headlights dim and the voltmeter drop momentarily when the blower motor was turned on high.


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#101208 06/19/2007 10:35 PM
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When we test alternators, the equipment we use actually uses the cars own accessories to losd the system. One of the things we do is to turn on the high beams and the AC on max to get a full load on it.


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#101209 06/20/2007 6:12 AM
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How did they handle the charging problem in the 50's and early 60's for cars with a/c before alternators came out? Surely they had a way to run the a/c clutches without killing the battery.
Wasn't it the mid 50's when a/c really made it's debute in the automotive world?

#101210 06/20/2007 6:18 AM
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Not sure on GM, but I know Chrysler used special 60 amp generators and regulators. I've heard mention that people use GM "School Bus" generators in their chevy cars and trucks because of the increased duty rating... so logically I'd be led to believe that A/C cars had higher output gen's from the factory. 60 Amp generators were not that much bigger than the 30 and 45 amp units. Is this correct?


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#101211 06/20/2007 1:32 PM
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The one on an old 1960 school bus I drove didn't look any bigger than the one on my 58 Chevy pkup. But it would keep up easlily with the load of the bus.

#101212 06/20/2007 11:07 PM
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G.M. used a gen. that was longer then the ones without air. They used a special dual point regulator & a smaller pulley.


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