Anything's a possible option, though for now I'll keep going for a hole in that SOB. Still really like to know what it's made of, it's not magnetic that's for sure and we've never encountered stainless like this. Impenetratium....from........ Roswell? Have to sign off now there's an Econoline at the curb, big aerials, two dudes at my door, dark shades, coveralls, say come to fix my cable. AHhhhhhh, I have no cable.............