I'm with ya Stoo, I've enjoyed yer posts in the past as well, but if you re-read each of your posts on this thread you
should be able to understand that you are typing a generalized 'train of thought' which is entirely theoretical, certainly not a direct answer to the question - don't hafta use the word to be talkin the talk, just hafta start all yer statements w/ "if"
I try to answer questions in a way that aids the poster in dealing w/ their situation as presented, and hope if it didn't help they return w/ further questions, which is what a discussion is about I think - you've taken to asking for more elaborate answers by posing theoretical questions, I try to answer them from well above the fly
I didn't take any of your statements out of context - the context is the original question which your statements were directed at, and finally I figgered the picture would be the best way to show the difference between conjecture and generalities, and the facts
the real problem is
exemplified simply here [my apologies to Norses bandwidth

] are you on the speaker or the mike?
anyone interested can find my mail thru my websites - if you want to yap off the board -
try here Bill