i hope to get a henrob torch someday. the good thing about victor is you can get all sizes of welding, heating, and cutting tips easy and sometimes used. thats a big plus. some of the other stuff is harder to get the exact sizes you need. don't the victor kits have 3 welding tips? i have 00 up to #7 and several heating tips. by the way i just got a refill on act a week or so back- it knocked 100 bucks in the head! was like $95 with hazmat fee, surcharges, gas and tax. good i only use it for welding and brazing, i do all my cutting with propane. i haven't bought a refill in 10 years or so.