also note if you want a dumper, a good place to start would be to find all the hardware, including a PTO trans to run it, what you come up with for a pump and ram[s] will dictate some of the design

Bill


Moved over to the Passing Lane

"When we tug a single thing in nature, we find it attached to the rest of the world" ~ John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" ~ me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics