Thanks guys. I'm planning to give Patrick a call Monday anyway for his short water pump/pulley set up. My real question I guess is which head gasket is the best, see a couple part nos. for Felpro one $21 other $28 and I'm sure there are others. Not pinching pennys here just don't want to make a mistake with the crapy part. The way my luck usually goes, a month after the install, I read an article on how bad the part is that I just used.