Okay, sounds like two different operations are being discussed here...
One type of drum slips over the lugs and comes off leaving the hub and bearings on the spindle. This one sometimes needs heat or the BFH between the lugs to loosen it around the hub boss.
The other type is riveted to the front or back of the hub face and must be removed with the hub and bearings from the spindle.
The only thing keeping the hub in place after the nut and washers are removed is the inner bearing race of the outer bearing. Until it is removed, the hub isn't moving. If this race is rusted to the spindle, you have some work to do. PB Blaster for a night, then you need to get it to start moving. Hammer and chisel to turn the race on the spindle to break the rust. Last resort, drill through the race on one side, stepping up the size until it is possible to cut the race on one side and expand it with a chisel or screwdriver blade. The race is hardened, so you're going to need good drills for this job.

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