Keep an eye on Ebay and on Craigslist. The vintage ones can routinely be found for under $400, the problem is shipping them if they are not near you. Also, the longer ones are hard to find. I prefer the longer one, but the medium size station wagon ones look ok on the Panel's too. If you find one that is missing a few parts that classicracks company supposedly sells individual pieces, although I have not tried to buy from them yet. I need to replace all the rubber discs under the mounts.