Roy, the camshaft has to come out first, and then the plate behind the timing cover can be removed along with the crankshaft. Sometimes it's a real PITA to get the cam out, especially if the lifters are stuck in their bores. It's usually necessary to destroy the camshaft gear to get to the thrust plate screws behind the cam gear. Easy if it's got a fiber gear, sort of a problem if it's the aluminum one.
Jerry