Glad that you pros are lurking around to help us out! OK...the exhaust donut between manifold and pipe is there but the PO did not have it fitting that tight as they welded a second pipe to the manifold for dual exhaust which was done when Fentons were not being made. The secondary pipe is fitting very well the primary has the dognut but you can see that the pipe is a bit out of plumb. The bolts are very rusty and I do not need to bust a manifold flange. SO.. I will feel around the dognut for a leak if there is a leak what would happen if I just leave it alone...those bolts look like they will break off inside the flange they are very rusty! Glad you guys are around! THANKS, Steve