I understand and thanks for all your help.The front end is all assembled and ready to install on frame.Absolutly no play up or down and nice and smooth turning left to right,all new tie rods drag link,etc.My sandblaster came by yesterday and did frame.My homemade rotiserie worked out well and made spraying the POR-15 a breeze.The frame looks like it was powdercoated i,m very impressed with the product will see if it holds up to their claims. Thanks again for everyones help and support this website is great I will try to post more pix soon. p.s.Ihave yet to figure out how to post pix on this site but have some on old gmc trucks.com