how do you have the rubber seal on? might have it with the lip the wrong way? it is a pretty tight fit, but with the little wire clips it shouldn't be able to "pull off the ring" ... maybe you should quit swearin at it and sweet talk it instead wink I put 4 of them on daBus but don't have a pic of the seal, maybe someone here will have ... or if you can get a pic of the inside of the ring with the seal on, someone can tell if it's right

Bill


Moved over to the Passing Lane

"When we tug a single thing in nature we find it attached to the rest of the world" John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics & Rust-a-holics Unanimous parking lot