the oil level is never above the top edge of the pan, somewhat below it actually - the only time you'd get oil out the pump hole is if it was running .... just don't start it with the pump off grin

Bill

Moved over to the Passing Lane

"When we tug a single thing in nature we find it attached to the rest of the world" John Muir
"When we tug a single thing on an old truck, we find it falls off" me
Some TF series details & TF heater pics & Rust-a-holics Unanimous parking lot