yeah, that's basically what i was thinking... went and looked at a decent 84 today but between the wheel base being 5" longer than the apache and it having a semi-floating rear axle (and a few other things) i figured i would just keep looking. so far the only truck ive been able to find with a 127" wheel base is my neighbors 83 Suburban... too bad he's not selling it. Anyone know of anything else that might have that wheel base?