Thanks again guys, stu i definitely have the old style of side ring as you thought.

A few of the mis matched budd wheels i have do have numbers on them, i should write eveything down...

Thats interesting about the intent of the design, my truck will never see heavy loads, but thats ok. Yeah they do seem to be in retty good shape, the tires are still even soft (not that im going to use the tires) but they will be good rollers for now and hopefully easier to get off since the sidewalls still have some flex