OK Mike - please don't have a stroke over it big_eek . Went and looked at it again today and besides frezzing brrrrr myself into a block of ice while I looked at it I came to the correct conclusion Not to get it . I could not show my face in this forum again if I did . Actually the cost of fixing up such a large truck was more than I was willing to undertake until my Chevy was running good and equiped to do battle with the fire monster. And I just got a '48 Chevy 1 1/2 ton w/hoist that I hope to pick up this weekend. Thanks thumbs_up for the Ferds querks Warnings ! ED H