Thanks Bill. Yep, sure makes sense now, but I still do not see how this new horn push and contact plate are "spring loaded" as the reference in the manual says. I guess the thin cheap metal contact plate is supposed to flex against the center nut and cause the contact to be made. I know it is not working, so I must have somethin wrong. The horn works fine when I touch it off with a jumper between the center and contact. I will keep fooling around with it and figure out what the hangup is. Glad I reminded you to find that spring!