Guys thanks for all the helpfull info. I got a patch about 3 x 4 inches welded in today. Not the best job of welding, but it is done. I think that first thing in the morning I will make up some of those but weld clamps. (thanks for the photos vickraft) Don, do the welding shops in your area carry Heat Fence? On my lunch hour I ran over to the shop I usually get my supplies at, and they had never heard of heat fence. I may have to take you up on your offer to send me some. I will check at the other 4 shops here in town, and let you know. Jimmie.