Originally Posted by Tiny
Those with closed minds end up in a closet. grin Unlike some around here I don't pretend to know it all AND I'm willing to learn. thumbs_up


I wish the best of luck for you. It would be great if there was something like this that really works but I'm afraid this one doesn't make sense to me. I would like to see this work for you but would caution anyone else thinking about parting with their hard earned money. What bits of info I could find on this indicates the typical scam to me. If there is any scientific independant testing done, I'm all ears and eyes but I couldn't find any. Claims by believers and careless news teams won't part me from my hard earned money.

First off, using this method of producing hydrogen I believe takes more energy to power the alternator than you would get out of the hydrogen produced. It probably isn't too big of an issue because these setups typically produce very little hydrogen gas. If one were to believe hydrogen injection is beneficial to a gasoline engine, you could probably inject hydrogen more economically by installing a hydrogen bottle and refilling it from a local gas supplier.

The news video that claimed they got 58% improvements is totally non scientific and flawed in their test approach and calculations. The way they determined mpg was by measuring how much fuel was used after running the vehicle 20 miles on a dyno at 55mph which is simple enough. However, they measured how much fuel was used by topping off the tank before and after testing by letting the gas station pump automatically shut off each time. I suspect most everyone here knows that gas pump shut offs are not consistent and will introduce error especially when only running 20 miles. I usually need to average more than a couple of tanks to get a reasonable mpg reading using this method. If the news team would have used a vehicle with an onboard fuel consumption computer, that would have been much better for a before and after comparison. BTW, a modern V8 running at constant 55mph on a dyno should get better than 25mpg (remember there is no wind drag).


Ed Fallon
In seemlingily endless process of restoring a stock 1953 chev 3100 pickup.