thanks for the encouragement I will post some picts soon!!I got the rear figured out ,I went to a buddys that has a 51 and his frame measured 17inchs from the ground at the point where the rear spring hangars are,after lowering it with my camaro parts it was the exact same height. He has a Heidts frt clip under it,which is very nice but too expensive for this project. I was thinking about one of the dropped frt axles but since I have a broken spring and will need springs I was considering a set of dropped mono springs. I think I can live with the stock frt end but I need an economical way to get 5 lug frt hubs and good brakes