Ah no worries Mate. It was all a misundestanding and I should have been clear about the 2 different trucks. This one pictured is mine its the one I recently bought it is some shorter than the 63 with the 16 or so ft bed on it. Thanks for the info. Did they make heavier and ligher frames for the 60 series? The frame on my 60 pictured looks to be the same thickness as my 53 6400. I believe it has a GVW of around 16,000 it has a hoist on it as well. Here is a pic of it taken last summer http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Forsythia-man/DCP_2149.jpg