Sorry Hedgehog, I didn't notice your disabled plaque. I am from Europe where they make you take driving lessons. No lessons, no license. I remember the "taking off on a grade" was about lesson 3. That is all I was referring to.
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Edit: BTW, the proper technique on really steep grades is to use the emergency brake in combination with the clutch and throttle. (Mine doesn't even work yet) wink


54 3100 with 235
62 flatbed dump C60 with 261