52 carl Well said Carl... I too have "stepped in it" (and been called down for it) I sometimes almost fall out of my chair when others get their "cheeks"chapped from stuff said on stovebolt. I guess that's why I come here every day!! Cheeks are in fare shape at this time !! Now those Harley girls with those chaps that got no protection back there...don't know about them hmmm !!