Ed Pruss I see on a lot of frame welds they make all kinds of fancy cuts to get the job done,I assume you welded with 7018. On big fertilizer off road frames we always cut them with thin wheels,scratched up clean tacked-up straight welded with 7018 lo-hi or what the pipe-fitters called hippie-rod. That was because when 7018 showed up those hippie fitters could make an x-ray quality weld with it !! Even girls done it.