Tom moore so the cables seem to be very tight once the hand brake is applied but truck still rolls .. harold 41 ill check the teeth aswell but seems like the rachet part of the hand brake is doing its job as far as pulling the cables tight ..Riggles i have removed the drum and do see the brake shoe moving with the hand brake applied i just cant get the truck to stop rolling with hand brake applied.. so i guess with all your guys advice im goung to give it another shot to see if anything jumps out at me .. sometimes the second time around makes the diffrence thanks to all of u again