Translation: It's all your fault Joe! <grin>.. Question for the group: the S10 frame on my '91 shortbed had so-much straight secton in which the 5-inch c-channel fit so well, that I started looking at many other possible projects that might benifit from a similar transplant. Does anyone know if the newer (93-later) S10 had all that nice straight (5-inch-friendly) frame rail? Thx, MV