Jerry, thanks for the info and my apologies for your having to repost. It should be posted in tech tips. It is concise and easy to follow. I had 2.7 v on the armature, no wires connected, 1800-200 RPM. Wires connected, field connected, voltage rose to 17V after a few seconds. So I guess that means I move on to the regulator.
The tips from others were also worth remembering - thanks.
Bob