I don't understand the debate. The OP asked about what folks do when they pull up to a stop, shift to first before you stop or after, at least that's how I read it. I shift to first after I stop. When sitting at a light I shift to neutral to save the throwout bearing.


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Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.