thanks bill.i will check that out.i was kinda thinking of buying one side or the other and seeing if they will work i figure it should be the same from the wheelwell notch up and around the top back and bottom to the bottom of the wheelwell notch.also another thing i am looking for is the door mirror.not the all one piece mount and shaft but the shaft that bolts thru the double mount on the door.i see lots of the big trucks with these brackets but no mirror.