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Howdy Gents! First, allow me to apologize for posting on a Chevy forum, but its the only place on the web where I could find anything relating to Barton American pumps. I own a 1962 Ford F800 with a Barton American UA75 that I currently use while doing brush removal around the ranch I work on. The Pump is amazing. It has a few leaks going on in 2 of the 3 ball valves. But the pump never gives up as long as its got oil in the gear case and water to pump. I see a lot of you on here are Barton Pump fans. If any of you have any user or repair manuals for the UA75 I sure would love to get my hands on a set. I want to make sure I know everything there is about this pump to make sure I run it correctly at all times. Specially during our winters in Central Oregon. Thanks for any help any of you can offer.

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Hi John, if you are interested in a complete Barton American pump I have one you can have free. It is just across the border in Surrey, B.C. Its a frame mount with an in line drive system.
It would be a waste to take it to the scrappers.
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Bill,

What year and/or model is your midship Barton? You're about as far from me as you can get, but I've got a buddy with shipping connections, and I'd be willing to consider it to save a pump from the scrapper - they have a way of coming in handy down the road . . .

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John,

let me look around - I may have some info on a U-75, though it's a little later, and bigger, than I'm accustomed to dealing with. Stay tuned . . .

The ball valves are adjustable, I think - it has to do with disassembling it, and adjusting the seat inside by screwing it in - or out - to tighten up the seal. New gaskets do wonders with keeping the couplings from leaking, as well.

What's the serial # on your truck, and where did it serve? I have a buddy who's keeping track of all the American trucks . . .

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Bill, thanks for the offer. Maybe you can send me some photos? You can email them to INTREPER@GMAIL.COM

Michael, thanks for looking! It's been really hard to find any info on these pumps. They were great. It's a shame they're not around anymore. About the only for sure thing I know, learned the hard way of course, is to make sure the pump is 100% drained during freezing temps. Cracked the oil cooler located underneath pump gear box. Not a pretty sight. I was able to get the chunk of brass brazed to seal again so we're back in good shape. But you bet I modified those lines to drain for sure now, haha.

Also Michael, my rig served in Polk County Oregon since day one. Shes a 1962 Ford F800 chassis with fire apparatus set up by Western States in Oregon. She's what they called a Combination Brush truck. Holds 1,000 gallons. The UA75's serial # is A2820. She now lives in Central Oregon on a private ranch. We use her year round while we do debri burning. The pumps serial

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Hi Michael, from the ID tag on the pump it is a DMB 500. Shipping to St. Louis will not be cheap but if you're interested it's yours.

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Mikestem, any luck tracking any more info on the UA-75?

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I am a new member and am restoring a 1945 U-50 front mount fire pump. I am needing some parts. Is your pump still available? The main thing I need is the check valve. Thanks, Rocky

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I am restoring a Barton American U-50 front mount pump and need a check valve. As I get into this pump I mat find that I need more parts. I would be interested in purchasing a used U-50 pump for parts or replacing mine if your pump is in good condition.

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Hi Rocky

I still have the pump for sale. But since this is a complete pump setup from pump, to primer,to all contols I don't want to sell any of the parts to insure a future owner of the pump has all the parts. But thanks for asking.

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What is your asking price? What is the difference between the UA-50 and the U-50

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Bill, Do you still have that pump you want to give away? What condition is it in?

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A UA pump should be jacketed with water from the engine so that it does. Of freeze.

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Other than the water jacket the U-50 and the UA-50 are the same. Is that correct?

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Originally Posted by Greengrass
Hi John, if you are interested in a complete Barton American pump I have one you can have free. It is just across the border in Surrey, B.C. Its a frame mount with an in line drive system.
It would be a waste to take it to the scrappers.
Bill
Is that pump still availible?
I am close...Richmond BC.
I have a '52 chev ft pumper firetruck.

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I have several Barton UA-50 pumps, complete and parts pumps. Let me know what you need, and I'll see if I can accommodate.

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All,

I am looking for the top part of a UA-50 pump, the part that has the one chrome handle that operates the 2 discharges. It is attached to the main body of the pump by 6 bolts. I have a picture of what I am looking for I can send to anyone that may have what I need.

Anyone have one for sale?

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Is this for your Jeep? I definitely want to see pictures!

I have several U-50s, pretty sure I have the discharge head with the flip-over handle (can't remember when, but they eventually went to a dual-handle model.)

Send me an e-mail or personal message with a photo and we'll get it done.

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Mike,

Yes it is for the Jeep. The pump is the last major item to go thru before it all goes back together. The original UA-50 pump with the one handle discharge on my jeep was destroyed before I got it, and they replaced it with a UA-50 with the 2 handle discharge. In all the documentation from Howe and Willys shows the 1 handle, so hence my quest for the "discharge top part with the 1 handle" that bolts to the bottom part of the pump.
I will email you some pics of the Jeep and what I am looking for, hopefully we can make a deal. Thanks!


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Finding that part may be hard, but you might find someone willing to trade their one handle for your two handle. They might want to keep their pump complete and working but don't care what handle setup they have...just a thought.

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Did you find a home for that pump?

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I know that this is coming years after the original post so my apologies up front for that. I am currently trying to get a Barton-American pump up and running again (UA-50) that is mounted on a 1958 Chevrolet Viking 60. I am looking for an original manual, details on the hose functions that are connected to the pump (not the fire hose) and also a possible source for the correct Marsh gauges for the truck. I have the intake pressure gauge which is non functioning however the discharge pressure gauge was replaced with a later Span gauge (oil filled) which is incorrect. I do have all of the details on the truck (build plate, etc.) if someone is still interested in that data for archival purposes

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Hello Mike. Need assistance on a us 50


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Dave,
I am a new member and in desperate need of any and all info for a U 50 pump. I am also in desperate need of the entire U 50 pump to fit my 54 IH R 186. Technically I am not positive if I need a U 50 or a UA 50.
I am willing to pay for any info you have on this pump.
Thank You Lisa

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Looks like I am joining in on the conversation 11 years late. I have recently obtained a 1949 Willys Jeep Firetruck with a front mount UA-50 pump. I have gotten the jeep revived and the pump back together but not tested. I would love to see your pictures and get any information on testing the pump for the first time in 40 years...... Anything would be appreciated. Jim


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