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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,776 Posts1,039,271 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 | Hello, does any one know the best way to remove the inner and outer wheel bearing races from the front drums? Thanks. | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | With a long punch. Tap it a little at a time, moving the punch around the bearing. | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 | Thanks alot Cletis it worked and I got 'em out. Now the next question, putting new races back in. Tap the in with a brass hammer? Or should I pop the races in the freezer for shrinkage, so they'll drop in easier?
Last edited by steppenwood; 07/23/2011 3:41 AM.
| | | | Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 127 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 127 | You need a race installer, they come in a kit of several sizes. Choose the one that fits into your race the best. You can do it with a hammer and punch, but if you miss even a little, you get to throw out the race and try again. | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 | I am pretty sure for the outer ones I used the old race, maybe upside down to tap it in. The freezer idea seems like a good one. | | | | Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 127 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 127 | Using the old ones will work just grind down to O.D. of the old one first, otherwise it gets pressed into hub as well as the new one. | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 | The reason I mentioned the outer ones is because they were not deep enough for the old race to ge caught. I can't be sure if the inner race was similar or not. | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13 | Does the freezer idea really work. I have never tried that, but heard it mentioned a few times before.
That's good, tighten it up till it strips, then back it off a quarter turn!
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 | When I'm ready to install the bearing race, I was gonna set the drum in the sun for a few hours and the race in the freezer for a few. Seems to me it should drop right in.
Last edited by steppenwood; 07/25/2011 4:47 AM.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,820 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,820 | If nothing else, you'll burn the heck out of you hands carrying the drum to the bench and rip your lips off trying to carry the race in you mouth. At least, that would be my luck!
"Truckin' Around .......... Since 1937!" My name is Joe and I am addicted to Classic Country Music. I just can't hep myself.Operators are standing by to take your calls! Now cruising in the Passing Lane | | | | Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 127 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 127 | If it was as easy as sun and a freezer, wouldn't we all do it that way? Races need to be pressed in, if they drop in that easy your hubs are done. | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 553 | Well you can believe what you want, but I tried it and it definitely helped. The race slid right in and it tightened up after the race warmed back up. | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 137 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 137 | I need an inner race for my 41'. Can/should you buy just the race, or replace as a bearing race set? | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 240 | I need an inner race for my 41'. Can/should you buy just the race, or replace as a bearing race set? You don't necessarily have to replace both sets in a hub (inboard and outboard), but it's best to replace the entire bearing assembly/set (inner race, bearing retainer with rolling elements, and outer race) when one component shows obvious signs of distress (flaking, pitting, brinnelling). When one component of a given set is failed or failing, the mating components see higher stresses and experience more "accumulated damage", even if unseen. I just replaced the rear wheel bearing and axle half shaft in my '47 after I discovered spalling on the axle shaft. It increases the size of the job, but it's nice to know it's done right. Have fun, Bill
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Never, never, never, never give up. - Churchill | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 | They don't "NEED" to be pressed in, heating and cooling the various pieces is much preferred to pressing any day. Although you would need to heat the hub more than sun temperature, more like 225-250 degrees. But it is much simpler, and there is no chance of scoring the various parts. We rarely use the press at work for assembly, there are a few operations that you can't heat/cool the components, but if we have the option.... | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 137 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 137 | So has anyone experienced the opposite end of the spectrum - race turns in the hub. Replace it, or other? | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45 | It's always best to replace the hub, but at times I have taken a sharp punch and dimpled the hub evenly all around, where the bearing race sits, and then coated with loctite sleeve and bearing retainer. This can work only if the race is only "very" slightly loose, as in that you can spin but not move it sideways in the hub.
Joe
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 137 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 137 | Thanks Joe, It is only slightly loose. A new bearing is $94 and my fear is that a new bearing won't fix the problem. The hub won't take another turning, so will get replaced eventually. Can I buy the loctite at a parts store like Napa? | | |
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