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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,776 Posts1,039,271 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 8 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 8 | Have any of you moved the battery on your truck? On the '53 I would like to mount it under the hood rather than leaving it under the passenger floor. Would like to hear the challenges that others have faced and how they were able to accomplish the task. The most likely space would be on the passenger side firewall next to the heater.
Thanks... | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 305 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 305 | I have seen an inner fender off a 1954 Canadian Chev with a cutout for the battery. Was told some of the bigger trucks had these. The one I saw was on a truck being parted out, might be available and it seemed factory original? John | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 | 55.2 and Later mounted it on the firewall and it worked fine. It was common to move the battery on the older ones using the later battery holder to be able to use a larger battery than the factory box allowed. | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Can't figure why you would want to move the battery from where it's at??? It's out of the way, doesn't take up any real-estate, easy to access and with todays sealed batteries there isn't a need to get to it until it's time to change it.
OOps, guess that would be one reason to get it out of it's normal space Ken, never would have thought of that being as I'm pretty much a 95% purist.
Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | I agree with Denny. If you want a "connection" up top you can do that easy enough. I like it where it is. I have a new DieHard  | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,026 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,026 | I moved mine to the firewall, removed the tray from the frame & mounted it to passenger side for easier access. Just my personal preference.
Robert C. If it's true what they say, "You learn from your mistakes," I'm a Genius in the making. 1950 3600 | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 | seems it would be way more work to move it than it would be to deal with it right where it is. | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 62 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 62 | when i bought my '53 1/2ton, there was a cutout in the inner fender, passenger side.. when the PO started the truck, he stuck the battery right there and the wires were already routed to that spot. it wasn't difficult at all to move the battery back to it's original spot, i don't see why it would be any trouble to move it from under the cab to under the hood. the only problem would be making/mounting a tray. in all honesty, with long enough wires you can mount your battery wherever you want it. i mounted my battery from under the hood to in the trunk on a previous vehicle.
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | Moving the heavy battery under the hood will move the center of gravity of the truck further away from the rear wheels. The last thing you need in a pickup on a slippery road is less weight on the rear wheels. 2 cents, refundable upon request.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 | Moving the heavy battery under the hood will move the center of gravity of the truck further away from the rear wheels. The last thing you need in a pickup on a slippery road is less weight on the rear wheels. 2 cents, refundable upon request. I hope you're joking. Moving the battery will have very little effect on the center of gravity. It's only a battery after all, it's not like you're moving the engine around. | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | I'll take the refund, it would move the "center of gravity" UP, not forward .... but if that would matter, just feed the passenger a bunch of extra doughnuts  Bill | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 8 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 8 | Thanks for the advice guys. I was just trying to figure out if it made sense to move the battery to a more accessible location. I have to agree with the "purists" that it works fine where it is at, but God help me...I like to tinker. Always think I can do a better job then the originators. I guess it is just a state of mind and my wife is quick to remind me that my thinker is not as creative (or clear) as it used to be. As they say " Just because I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu".
Thanks again...The Road Gent | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | and with todays sealed batteries there isn't a need to get to it until it's time to change it. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL I take mine out every fall when I store it and removing the door seal retainer is a bit of an annoyance but I like it there and for boosting/charging one can clamp directly to the starter switch post. I never found a 12 volt deep cycle or spiral wound battery that would fit the original tray to eliminate seasonal removal. I would have ground off the rivets and made a longer/wider tray had I known better.
1952 1300 Canadian 1/2 ton restomod You Tube | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35 | I'm pretty much a 95% purist.
Denny Graham classic statement! Is that like being pretty much a 95% vegetarian? lol!
53 Chevy 210 convertible; 55 GMC pickup; 57 GMC Suburban Carryall
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Had my '50 since the spring of 2005 and the first thing I did was put a new F&F battery in her. Changed that battery out three years later simply because Farm & Fleet only warrantied their 6v commercial battery for two years and I dint want to take a chance on getting stuck out in the boonies with a dead battery. Once we got to know each other a little better she's gained my trust and I'm not afraid to leave the battery till she gives me a sign that something is wrong. That second two year battery has been in since '08 and here it is, 2013. Five years now and still goin' strong. I still use the first one as my 6v power supply on the radio bench. I've never removed the battery in the winter, mostly cuz I still drive the old gal a couple times a week weather permitting. But I do understand why one would choose to re-engineer their truck when the need for a non standard size battery is called for.
No one's perfect Ida, I'm almost a purist and almost a vegetarian, but not quite 100% of either.
Denny Graham Charged up in Sandwich, IL
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | I've often pondered mounting the battery in the fender behind the rear tire. Optima battery with a metal box would more than do the trick. Not for any real reason, just to be different. | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 28 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 28 | Well now. I find it odd no one has mentioned the factory option for under hood battery. In the 1954 sales data book it is listed as CSL#54-395 (standard battery under hood).This consists of a cutout in the right inner fender and a battery tray bolted to the frame. 54John3100 mentioned this in the second post and has seen it on my parts truck. If any one would like pictures of this email me w.beier@shaw.ca
1954 GMC 9314 - 261 t5
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | That is not so odd, the only other poster who referred to that is another northerner (Canadian). That part in shown in the General Motors of Canada Ltd. Truck Sales Data Book for 1300-1700 models.
That part is not listed/shown in the USA Chevrolet Truck Data Book.
| | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | I wonder if it is an alternative location or an auxiliary location. | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | Moving the heavy battery under the hood will move the center of gravity of the truck further away from the rear wheels. The last thing you need in a pickup on a slippery road is less weight on the rear wheels. 2 cents, refundable upon request. I hope you're joking. Moving the battery will have very little effect on the center of gravity. It's only a battery after all, it's not like you're moving the engine around. I don't know how much your battery weighs, but mine is heavy. As far as weight transfer, think of loading your battery in a wheelbarrow. Does it make a difference whether you put it up front over the wheel, or all the way back by the handles? I have already had one person request a refund for my two cents. Try the battery in the wheelbarrow test and let me know if I need to refund your two cents. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | I'll take the refund, it would move the "center of gravity" UP, not forward .... but if that would matter, just feed the passenger a bunch of extra doughnuts  Bill My passenger ain't getting no doughnuts. Your two cents are in the mail, and you can keep your doctor and your insurance plan. LOL Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | I guess one could argue that the battery helps balance out the fact that normally there is no passenger. When there is, the larger percentage of the time its lighter person (say the right thing when your wife is listening or else!) | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,946 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,946 | I don't know how much your battery weighs, but mine is heavy. As far as weight transfer, think of loading your battery in a wheelbarrow. Does it make a difference whether you put it up front over the wheel, or all the way back by the handles? I have already had one person request a refund for my two cents. Try the battery in the wheelbarrow test and let me know if I need to refund your two cents. Carl I don't think we're really comparing apples to apples here. To make it comparable, try hauling a flashlight battery in your wheelbarrow. That would be more realistic. You'll find it won't really matter which side it's on. | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Ata boy Rich, both thumbs up. DG
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 | I don't know how much your battery weighs, but mine is heavy. As far as weight transfer, think of loading your battery in a wheelbarrow. Does it make a difference whether you put it up front over the wheel, or all the way back by the handles? I have already had one person request a refund for my two cents. Try the battery in the wheelbarrow test and let me know if I need to refund your two cents. Carl I don't think we're really comparing apples to apples here. To make it comparable, try hauling a flashlight battery in your wheelbarrow. That would be more realistic. You'll find it won't really matter which side it's on. Exactly. The wheelbarrow test works because the battery weight is a considerable percentage of what the wheelbarrow weighs. Your battery better not be a considerable percentage of your truck weight... Plus, your wheelbarrow is balance on one wheel, truck is on four. Even for the heaviest of batteries it would not make a noticeable difference in CG or handling on a pickup truck. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | OK, I may have to rob the kid's piggy bank for a lot of two cent refunds. My final question is, why do hotrodders put their batteries in the trunk?
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | OK, I may have to rob the kid's piggy bank for a lot of two cent refunds. My final question is, why do hotrodders put their batteries in the trunk? Maybe this is the answer? Here is a discussion on the topic. | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,026 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,026 | Moving the heavy battery under the hood will move the center of gravity of the truck further away from the rear wheels. The last thing you need in a pickup on a slippery road is less weight on the rear wheels. 2 cents, refundable upon request. I hope you're joking. Moving the battery will have very little effect on the center of gravity. It's only a battery after all, it's not like you're moving the engine around. DITTO!
Robert C. If it's true what they say, "You learn from your mistakes," I'm a Genius in the making. 1950 3600 | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | "hot rodders" put the battery in the trunk so it's out of sight - or maybe so it's closer to the gas tank when they get rear ended  racers put the battery in the trunk because that's the standard procedure at the track, and allows for a handy emergency kill switch near the emergency gas shutoff at most your battery will weigh about 50 lbs, in a vehicle that weighs thousands of pounds, carrying passengers that weigh hundreds, and a payload of a thousand or more, the weight of the battery is a total non-issue regardless of where it is Bill | | |
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