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#937760 04/22/2013 8:55 PM
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Hi, I just bought a 1951 GMC 3-Ton but its missing the rear gears. Does anyone have any info an what they could be. Any help would be great, Thanks

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Verschuren,
I'm assuming yours is a 450 series GMC. There were a couple different rears available. Single speed, two speed in a couple different weigh ratings. Are you looking just for ratios or parts numbers and swap info?
If it is a 450 there should be a data plate inside the glove box door that tells what equipment the truck was born with. If you post what it says we should be able to dig into this a little deeper.
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Specifically, what do you mean by 'rear gears'?

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I checked the glove box, but theres no data plate. Im guessing a 450 series is a 3-Ton but it doesn't say any 400 series anywhere on the truck. But it does say have 2 "3-Ton" emblems under the GMC emblem on the side of the hood. Its a Canandian built truck.

Basically all I have is the axle housing. Its a 12 bolt with 8 bolt axles. The differential cover, housing and differential is all missing.

Thanks for the help

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Hy Verschuren, welcome, could you post the trucks serial number, and tell us how many bolts/studs hold your wheels on? I think seeing as how you're a fellow Canadian that your truck may be a 9700 series, so if your truck is a 1951 model your serial number would be something like 197....., hope that helps.

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Its a five bolt wheel. And you're right the first digits of the serial is a 097. And it does have the Bendix Hydrovac Brakes is that helps

Thanks for the help

I just posted some pictures of the the truck with the axle housing and axles. And also my '38 GMC.

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/V...mp;_suid=1366822393359042539252475612754

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Hy Verschuren, if your serial number starts with a zero then your truck is a 1950 model. Is there a rectangular box at the bottom of the dash with a flip knob at the bottom of it that says "Park in low" ?

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What is the gvw rating on the ID plate in the driver door jamb? Canadian built 3 ton trucks were the same as 2 ton American built trucks. The Canadian built trucks were rated higher, for some reason.


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Its rated at 16,000

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Originally Posted by spanky
What is the gvw rating on the ID plate in the driver door jamb? Canadian built 3 ton trucks were the same as 2 ton American built trucks. The Canadian built trucks were rated higher, for some reason.


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U.S. built GMC with 16000lb. gvw is a 350 series 2 ton. A U.S. built GMC 450 series 3 ton is rated at 19500lb. gvw. As mentioned, Canadian built trucks had higher gvw ratings, for some reason.


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Hey 3B, No I dont see that flip knob. I've checked all the local junk yards, nothing comes close to this rear end, Im probably going to have to do a swap instead.

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Hy Verschuren, your truck could have a round two speed control next to the steering column, or it might have had a manual cable shift, or it could have been an electric shift Eaton. Or it might have been a single speed, hard to say, good luck finding a replacement.

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Its been tough trying to find one with the same housing and axles in the salvage yards. Thanks for the help but I think my best bet is to buy a different rear end and change the spring mounts and driveshafts.


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