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#92984 09/22/2005 1:47 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 151 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 151 | ...as a replacement for tungsten in 54 AD headlights running on 12v--any advice, dos/don'ts? (I don't want to prat about with relays etc. Just swap bulbs.)
Danke donuts. | | |
#92985 09/22/2005 2:33 AM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | ohpants, I just recieved the 2005 fall LMC catalog last night. On the cover is a close-up of a AD headlight assembly with a very cool looking lamp in it. www.lmctruck.com Stuart. | | |
#92986 09/22/2005 2:34 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Replacement bulbs come in different wattages. If you want to avoid messing with relays you'll want to stay with the lower wattage versions because they will require fewer amps.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#92987 09/22/2005 2:55 AM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | had this post a while back, some say go ahead, some say relays, some say if you have good wiring probably no problem.. just go ahead and let me know how it turns out. This will be my next deal  Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | |
#92988 09/22/2005 4:15 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | If the wiring and headlight switch is adequate for the standard bulbs you are using now, and you do not replace them with higher wattage bulbs, you will not need relays.
If your wiring and switch is inadequate for your existing headlights, switching to halogen is not going to help.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#92989 09/22/2005 4:24 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 151 Member | Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 151 | Cool. Thank you, gentlemen, I'm crap at electrics.
About all I know is if you don't keep plugs in the wall sockets of your house the electricity leaks out. | | |
#92990 09/22/2005 2:08 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | so that is why my electric bill is so high,, thanks for the tip......and a little tip about electrics, you will need a battery for those lights  Fred Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | |
#92991 09/23/2005 8:32 PM | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 258 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 258 | Pants...
If you're running 12-volts, the easiest switch for your headlights is to get a 12 volt halogen sealed-beam at your local auto store...
Not sure if the number is H6014 (could it be that simple?), but I used these in my '72 C-10 and my '61 Willys pick-up.
I have used both Wagner Power-Beams and Sylvania's versions...both are much brighter than regular 12-volt sealed beams. Unless someone bother to read the lettering molded into the lens, it's very hard to tell they're not OEM.
As for your wiring, '54 trucks were the first year for plastic wiring insulation, and the six-volt wiring ought to be "twice as heavy" as is necessary for 12 volt "watt for watt" upgrade.
I wish they would make a six-volt halogen sealed-beam...
Good luck !
PS: you can also get composite Euro-type headlight envelopes that use the H-4 bulbs, but the ones I've seen so far have a much flatter lens than a traditional PAR-56 glass sealed-beam, and just don't look right in a 1940's-'50s US car/truck...IMHO.
Frank McMullen 1941 Chevy dump truck 1949 GMC 100 pick-up 1954 Chevy 3600 pick-up 1955.1 4400 dump truck 1941 De Soto & other MoPars 1928 Model A F**D Special Coupe
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#92992 10/02/2005 2:44 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 158 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 158 | GE's 7" round (H5024?) (available at Wal-Mart or many FLAPS) is the way to go. It's a long-life lamp, and the closest thing you'll find to a true "high output" 7" round. Sylvania's SilverStars are nice, too; but they use a "blue" bulb to make the light whiter (not brighter), and are significantly more expensive.
Relays are a nice touch, but usually not necessary if your stock wiring (including grounds!) is in good shape.
There are no 6V Halogen 7" round headlamps that I know of; and last I checked GE was the only one making the incandescents domestically (the GE bulbs are also boxed for and sold by other brands.)
Don't worry about relays, just make sure all of your connections (including grounds) are clean; and use the "light bulb grease" on the connections when installing the new bulbs.
Cheers, mark. | | |
#92993 10/03/2005 6:57 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | When the time comes, I'm going to Hella H4s - even if they will probably look a bit odd. | | |
#92994 10/03/2005 9:52 PM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 90 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 90 | I have always liked these guys because they have some, off the wall, hard to find lighting that is very hard to locate. I have several of the lamps that fit into my antique bikes that frankly NO-Body else has! But the key here is a simple phone call. Just cause you don't see it on the web page ..... ask them. Contact PUMA and ask them if they have in stock the illusive 6-volt bulb. Many of our vintage bikes and sports cars still use 6 - volt systems. I have made many a recommondation about this company to many. Let them know who and what club you belong to and the use this will fit. They have always been helpful to us. Hella's are one of the nicest lens around. The way the lens is fashioned helps to illuminate the side of the road as well as many other features. Actually the H4 is the type of bulb. REMEMBER : NEVER TOUCH ONE OF THESE MODERN BULBS W/ YOUR GREASY FINGERS... It WILL shorten the bulbs life. Clean w/ alcohol if you do B4 placing the bulb into operation Check w/ puma access @ http://www.puma-access.com/cgi-loca...hp?L+scstore+ndhq3725ff937a93+1138284440 This model has a ''parking bulb'' along w/ the low/high beam added inside the lamp assy. CHECK IT OUT see the conversion lamp: http://www.puma-access.com/cgi-loca...ml?L+scstore+ndhq3725ff937a93+1137893642 Ps many of the autozone,kragen,schucks,pepboys, etc stores have halogen replacements
Gooday Jim
small wheel moves by fire and rod, big wheel fires by the grace of god, everytime that wheel turns round, bound to cover just a little more ground.
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#92995 10/04/2005 4:07 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | H4 is indeed the bulb type - but you need an H4 housing to use them.  | | |
#92996 10/04/2005 7:03 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 | I put halogens in my 54 ... with relays (why not?) ... all my notes are Here What a great difference!
~~ Alan Horvath 1954 Chevy PickupSinging his praises in thePassing Lane | | |
#92997 10/04/2005 1:18 PM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 531 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 531 | We can always count on Alan for practical "how-to's"! | | |
#92998 10/04/2005 5:46 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 | Thanks, Larry. 
~~ Alan Horvath 1954 Chevy PickupSinging his praises in thePassing Lane | | |
#92999 10/04/2005 10:34 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | We can always count on Alan for practical "how-to's"! And not just about trucks, about guitars, too. | | |
#93000 10/04/2005 11:05 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 | LOL! Guitars and trucks ... isn't that ALL it's about?
~~ Alan Horvath 1954 Chevy PickupSinging his praises in thePassing Lane | | |
#93001 10/06/2005 4:17 PM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 531 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 531 | and let's not forget women Alan, otherwise there'd be nothing to write songs about! | | |
#93002 10/06/2005 6:47 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 | LOL! Man, that's the GREATEST truth!
~~ Alan Horvath 1954 Chevy PickupSinging his praises in thePassing Lane | | |
#93003 10/06/2005 6:52 PM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | Alan, I need to check out your website for a few things. Trying to get my '40 National archtop in shape so I can learn to play. | | |
#93004 10/07/2005 10:16 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,271 | All my musical stuff starts Here , bro'. To ask a bunch of questions and get a bunch of great answers, check out my Yahoo group Here
~~ Alan Horvath 1954 Chevy PickupSinging his praises in thePassing Lane | | |
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